I hadn't really thought about the fact that he monetized the "apology video" until this guy pointed it out. He made $3000 from it.
Wow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w82evcjfybm.
I hadn't really thought about the fact that he monetized the "apology video" until this guy pointed it out. He made $3000 from it.
Wow.
the problem is where do we go from here?
lloyd is not going to go away , he has too much to loose(money) neither will his followers go as we have seen the last few days there was hardly a drop to his membership .so what's next?
we will be branded in the same colours and because of him we won't be taken seriously anymore.
Guy who was a dick when a JW continues to be a dick when he leaves. Looks like freedom was wasted on him. Sad truth is you can't escape from yourself.
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Ray Franz he ain't!
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This is uncomfortable viewing
minimus former jw, prolific poster on jwn died.. minimus.
joined 19 years ago.
started 4,139 topics.
Is this confirmed?!
someone i know from england is a nurse.
she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.
she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.
I know of a nurse in the UK who had covid last year, got the vaccine in December and is in hospital now with Covid in January. She's BAME which puts her in a higher risk group.
The Watchtower would be broke if this was easy.
this topics get a great deal of discussion here.
what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.
wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?
I think the biggest threat is a splinter of schism at some point. For true believers the stress of trying to figure out which one represents "the truth" would be unbearable. Otherwise I think the show descent into obscurity and irrelevance will continue for the next decades.
i have known many elders who were much more into the idea of being an elder and getting all the old ladies to tell them what wonderful talks they give and the power then really being a believer.
i had one elder tell me that when he became an elder he was on top dog on top of the heap.
i knew some who were really all about the religion and following the cult.
Many, if not most.
amber gives a superb talk here.
i couldn't help but contrast her delivery - fluent , articulate , without any notes - not even a rostrum or podium to hide behind - with the numerous talks and items i heard when i was a jw.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7wfpaqcqcw.
i am reading her book " leaving the witness " just now - it is superb - i just can't put it down.
Thanks I'll check the video out. I really enjoyed her book too.